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Old 05-02-2008, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent_Grey View Post
My belief when it comes to homosexuality is pretty simple. I assert that as we develop, there are thousands of variables that make up who we are sexually. Some of it can be genetic, some of it psychological, and the rest myriad factors from our environment that cannot be controlled.

The illusion that homosexuality is a choice springs from the fact that certain life events often seem prevalent in the lives of gay people; but it is faulty to think that these variations result in people having significant sway over what, when their sexual makeup is set into a dulthood, will be.

One example is that we have no idea what we will fetishize and what we will simply embrace. Take for instance the case of a child brought up in a strictly religious home, who is beaten every time he displays the lightest hint of homosexuality.

Possibility One, is that he embraces this harsh lesson. Pain=Bad. Homosexuality=Pain. Homosexuality=Bad.

Possibility Two, is that he rejects it out of hand. Perhaps in time he might reject his father. Or he comes to associate a link between Men, Pain, and Sex created by this situation.

The bitch of it is, you have no way of knowing what a young mind will do with any lesson, however harsh or mild its method.

Where I will side against liberals to a small degree in this, is that I do think it's physically possible to change your sexual makeup as an adult. It's just that I don't think that change is in any way desireable

It's possible if you go through one of those Christian conversion camps for instance, that maybe a scant number of attendants will ultimately come to reject homosexuality. I think it's rare, and I think a greater amount of psychological scars come from doing it, but yeah, it is physically possible.

As usual the bigger question remains why is it flat out wrong to be gay? I have never heard a compelling answer on this.

Perhaps someone here has one for me?
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Well "Grey", as for ideas of why its "wrong to be gay": you might check out almost every post by the mad monk himself, posting here as "Razzputin". There are others with equally strong views, but for the most part they are just that "views".

Your post here is more or less accurate in that all sexuality is the end result of numerous genetic, pre-natal hormone ratios, and as you say environmental factors: this combination of factors designs sexuality to be a continuim and not an "either or gene"/"on & off gene" in sexuality development, there are hetero & homo poles on each end of the continuim, and much inbetween.

You are more or less right, it does harm to try to change a setteled orientation.

Above is not my "opinion", its what is reflected in the current body of the literature on this topic. But, there are many who say science be damned, and hold to the opinions on this tipic that are religiously inspired or just plain bigoted. Oh well. ...pjwky
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