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Originally Posted by FreedomForWho
But...were not on an island, we are a land comprised of men and women who seek justice and equality, allowing children to be tortured by those who are acting only on their own accord is wrong. And it does not necessarily feel good, and alot of children say no, because they are taught that this area is private. So they know at the time it is occuring, what this person is doing is wrong, that is when the trauma is most strong.
But even on an island, mankind has a sense of right and wrong, that is indeed undeniable. You feel it when you have wronged someone.
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thats called classical conditioning. you associate negative responses with particular stimuli. it isn't something magical. and you can classically condition anyone to think any way when they are a child. you can classically condition a mouse but it doesnt mean its moral.
Also, a lot of children, as was my argument, do not say no because they do not know that area is private. Seeing a molestation for a child is often going to start earlier than schooling, and that the parents will try and control the child's way of thinking to prevent he/she from seeing the moral implications.
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Ok, lets do this. Lets say, you have a nation of people like yourself, everyone of them would act the way you have just explained above. Do you think it possible for a nation to succeed when:
*They will not risk their life to help someone in need (There goes an army)
*Wont help someone who has wronged them in the past. (So much for any second chances, death penalty for each and every crime, or life in prison)
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Talk about a fallacy! First of all, just because some one has solidarity, as I explained, does not mean they have morality. Secondly, yes, a society thats fucked up like this would still be a society. Look at Las Vegas. No one there is going to save your life, and everyone is greedy and unforgiving.
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These are the points I make, people on their own without morals are selfish, greedy, mean, deceitful, and treacherous. However, morals make these people see who they are, where as normally, they look right through it as if it were the norm.
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Thats not true. Morality is inessential to being kind to other humans. You don't need a God to act nice, you can just do it of your own volition. Try it sometime, I do it quite regularly myself.
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Lets look back a second, and think about each of those questions in refrence to you, and apply an analogy.
*You see a stranger, shot and bleeding on the street, do you help him?
You are now in the strangers position, and he in yours. How do you want him to react?
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Well, I said I would help the stranger. I wouldn't expect anyone to ever help me, but it would be greatly appreciated.
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**An old enemy of yours needs a blood transfusion or he will die, will you give it to him?
You lie deteriorating on a bed, because your blood no longer carries enough oxygen through your system. He get the news from the doctor, he said no, you arn't worth vomiting for.
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I cannot imagine what it would take for a person to wrong me in such a manner that I would not try to save his life at such a little expense of my own.
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whats an enemy then? See, I dont believe in Jesus or "turn the other cheek". I believe an enemy is an enemy, and for me to somehow come into control of his life, I'd have to act accordingly. but, i dont have any enemies, its not something i look to acquire, but when i do have them i take em seriously.
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You are driving a car down the road, the worst storm imaginable is following close behind you, no more than 2-5 minutes. Three people are standing on the side of the road.
First, your best friend who has saved your life before.
Second, and old woman who has had a heart attack and needs to get to a hospital soon or she will die.
Third, the girl of your dreams.
You have room for only yourself and one other person, which one do you take?
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My best friend. Bros before hoes.