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Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek
Climate change is no longer in the realm of opinion; it is a scientific fact.
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Oh really? If it were scientific fact then why the dispute? Afterall, gravity is a scientific fact but I don't see anyone disputing it? What natural /physical laws support your so-called fact? Why is there no one on the pro-AGW/CC side willing to debate the issue, after all it is the pro AGW/CC side who prematurely brought the issue to the public realm?
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Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek
The evidence of global warming, and its links to human activity, has been established by research and experimentation results collected by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) based on over seven million observations of temperature, salinity and other variables in the world’s oceans; and that has definitively ruled out natural climate variations due solar activity, volcanic eruptions, photosynthesis, etc. as the cause of measurable increase in ocean temperature, which has risen 0.9F in just the past 40 years. (The same findings were made in a long-range study in Britain.)
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And there is evidence to dispute those methods and findings, but what we don't have is the utilization of the scenic method to put the matter to rest. Why?
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Originally Posted by W.J. Wilczek
Even the Pentagon acknowledges the fact of global warming and the threat of climate change on national security interests. See Peter Schwartz and Doug Randall, “An Abrupt Climate Change Scenario and Its Implications for United States National Security” (October 2003). In face of the scientific evidence, which has been independently verified, to say that there is any doubt about it is no longer tenable.
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That is what you and all the other "believers" would like the rest of us to swallow, but the "fact" is that the "experiments" have not stood the rigors of the scientific method so the argument is in fact tenable. And to bring in the Pentagon is ridiculous. The Pentagon is paid to do scenario planning. Do you realize we have all kinds of scenario's that our Pentagon has developed, like we have a scenario to attack Canada, does that mean it's a real possibility? NO. Is it scientific? NO. In face of the evidence, the fact is that we do not know conclusively all that is needed to be known about AGW/CC to take action least we have another DDT catastrophe. There are no "scientific facts" that supports your claims--just supposition through experiments and computer simulation.
Let me ask you some questions...
1. What is the optimal temperature for life on Earth? After all if we don't know this temperature then how do we know if we need to stop warming?
2. What is man's percent of CO2 contribution?
3. Given man's CO2 contribution, what natural or physical laws support AGW/CC?