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Old 04-25-2008, 09:27 PM
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Steve the BBC articles author was taken out of context by Beck. Notice how Glenn Beck says global warming "activist" in his presentation never mentioning the leading bodies of scientists who have verifed NASA recordings. Well it was far more than just Jo whom Glenn chose to read an email from that knew that article was taken out of context...Glen forgot to mention NASA, the IPCC and even skeptics know temps have risen since 1998. Temperatures since 1998 have steadily risen and have not even been disputed by any major scientific body including skeptics. You happen to like that live leak and the way Glenn reported it, but the fact remains temperatures have risen, arctic ice continues to melt and even skeptics know this.The skeptics would laugh at Glenn Beck because their argument is that CO 2 is not the primary cause yet even they can read graphs and do not dispute the rise in temps and Beck is actually trying to say something even the skeptics would not try to get away with .You can copy and paste anything you want ,but until you can find a consensus with peer reviewed scientific studies it means nothing. Glenn Beck was not even astute enough to realize that NASA has records of global temps documented and just because one article by the BBC which was taken out of context he chose to run with it and not present documented and verified data.

Steve, do you really believe Glenn Beck over NASA, global data records of temperatures and even skeptics who acknowledge temps have risen. Glenn looked like an idiot on that live leak piece, even to a skeptic. Look I am not trying to convince you to believe the science of climate change by the IPCC, NASA or anyone else. You are locked into your beliefs and so be it, but you cannot take documented temps from leading bodies of science and accepted by both those who are believers and skeptics of human induced causes of climate change and suddenly change the recorded data just because Glenn Beck takes an article out of context. A responsible journalist might not have an opinion ,but actually research reputable graphs of the global temps and try to find if they have indeed risen or dropped instead of his lame presentation.A miniscule amount of research on yearly temps would have helped him out.
The issue isn't whether I believe Glenn Beck over NASA. As I mentioned I don't have bone to pick with Beck but I also don't listen to him regularly. And as for NASA, I'm not sure which representative you are talking about. However, there is a large group of meterologists, scientists and even activists who strongly question the whole hysteria of "Global Warming". As I had mentioned in another post, it has gotten to the stage where it is now a billion $$ investment for the hysteria to continue. Al Gore has admitted this himself as he has invested large amounts of money. It's a cottage industry. While I believe that the earth goes through cycles, I am not of the belief of someone like Ted Turner who predicted that in 20 years we are all going to be cannibals and such.
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