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Old 04-22-2008, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by wow View Post
Law-abiding citizens do not commit gun crimes. Why take their guns?

Despite its ban, Chicago tops the nation in confiscated firearms. Last year, Chicago police seized about 7,400 guns and received 6,000 at voluntary turn-ins. Over the past decade, Chicago police have confiscated an average of 10,800 guns per year. Chicago Police spokeswoman Monique Bond sees the high confiscation numbers as evidence that guns are ubiquitous here: "Anyone can get a gun," she says. "You can get a gun like you can get expensive sneakers." But she insists those statistics also reflect that law enforcement has been aggressively cracking down on guns in the city.
I didn't say anything about tkaing their guns- am I for taking away guns?
I'm actually half/half. my point is that owning guns isn't limiting crime. and if you don't have a record or slip through the cracks, you can buy a gun and use it for crime if it pleases you.
the last few school shootings at universities have been done with guns bought from legal places (although the V-tech killer by law wasn't suppose to be able to buy a gun)

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Originally Posted by Yellowjacket View Post
No law abiding citizen in Chicago has ever used a firearm in self defense or to "scare off" a burglar? Never even deterred a potential intruder? Quit trying to convince people that anti-gun laws prevent crimes. The Chicago murder rate and felony assault rate disproves that theory. It boils down to the fact that criminals, by their very nature, don't obey the laws. Therefore, only the law abiding are disarmed, making them an easier target for the criminals.
not true.
people owning guns doesn't limit crime. its not just illegal guns that the police are counting. there are many legal gun shops and many people who guns. we still have crime up the ass.
obviously the answer to gun problems isn't more guns. we're proof of that

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None of these killings were commited witha legaly obtaied weapon. NO gun law stoped these crimes.

So you take away weapons fro people that never commit a crime and these killings are stoped how?

You aren't going to stop guns from being sold illegally. Nobody knows where they are they are not registered. Soviet military weapons like the AK47 and Chinese SKS have been produced in such quantities over the decades since they were designed by some many foreign and domestic manufactures that they alone exceed the population of allot of countries. There are litteraly billions of those two gun type alone. So what do you want? House to house search of the entire 300 million people in America? Is that what you want? Then go work for Dick fucking cheney.

You cant not assume peopel as quilty for owning a weapon and still realiticly claim to be for a free nation.


NOw if hadfuls of people got out guns last night and went after wahta re reported as individualy no realtied shootings. Whod they go after...suspects that are not apprenheded or indentified? Lunch mobs that snatch perps from squad cars and jails?

Guns in the hands of store owners and private citsznes give the innocent victoms the opurtunity to derned themsleves. There is no logical way to refute that. Last night in Chitown sure as hell is no example of it not working.
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