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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
I suppose that would all be related to the nature of when it could survive on its own.
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If that were true, at what age do we become self sustaining? I am in my 60's and still am not capable of photosynthesis or anything that even resembles being self sustaining. Newborns certainly can't survive on thier own. Are they not human beings?
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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
Couldn't provide you that. I personally don't believe it is at conception.
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Of course not, becuause it doesn't exist. And favoring the story you tell yourself (your opinion) in favor of the scientific reality, is exactly what this thread is about. Why would you favor a story you tell yourself over scientific fact? Exactly what is to be gained by that?
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Originally Posted by CrankyYankee
We were discussing when a fetus becomes a human. They are not one and the same thing. One will of necesity become the other, but that is a different subject.
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Explain what change happened in your essential nature by which you "became" a human being. You are certainly the same creature you were at the time you were concieved. You have matured and grown, but what were you before you "became" a human being? What change came over you?