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1. Why is contrcaeption ok, in fact even "responsible" but abortion is horrendous? Are the intentions and end result not the same?
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Contraceptives that have an abortifacient effect in addition to the property of preventing contraception are not ok. Who ever said that they were?
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2. If contraception is "better," please explain better for whom, the unborn? How? How is it any better to be contracepted into nothingness than aborted into it?
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If contraception works, then there is no unborn. Fertilization never happens. If fertilization never happens, there is no child. If there is no child, then there is no problem. Certain contraceptives have an abortifacient effect that actually causes the death of the child if the contraceptive aspect fails. These contraceptive / abortifacients are not ok.
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3. Why does fertalization equal right to life? What point of fertalization? The beginning? It takes 24 hours to complete. Thus when is the right to life guaranteed?
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I believe that most pro lifers, when speaking of fertilization, state when fertilzation is complete. I would say that when the child makes the first chemical communication with the mother informing her body that conception has happend and it should begin preparing for pregnancy, that the right to live should be protected. That first chemical communication happens within seconds of the completion of fertilization. There are those who say that it signals the completion of fertilization.
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4. Do you not find it odd that an egg and sperm who according to you guys have no value but then turn into "instant person" with a right to life at some point during fertalization? In any case, why must we believe your claims as to instant personhood?
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There is nothing odd about it at all. It is basic biology. If you grasp the science then there is nothing magical or odd about it. Sperm is nothing but a cell from a man's body. It is unique in that it only has half a set of chromosomes but alone it is nothing. Sperm don't even divide. They are formed, remain viable for a finite amount of time and are resorbed or sluffed off. The same is true for eggs except that they are rarely resorbed. When they get together, their potenital is realized. A new being exists. The offspring of two human beings which can be nothing but a human being.
Person is the kind of creature that you are. It has nothing to do with the extent to which you manifest your potential. If reaching one's potential were essential to personhood, then those who reach more of their potential would be more of a person than those who achieve a lesser degree of their potential. Regardless of how much or how little potential we actually manifest, we are no more and no less of a person than the next guy and there is nothing that we can do or have befall us that would unperson us. Person is simply what we are. It is a matter of kind and not degree. How good or bad a person you are is a matter of degree but not the "amount" of person you are.
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5. Finally how can you expect people to contracept and yet never abort? I mean by saying contraception is "responsible" you are basically saying the components of conception have no value, thus why should someone value them just because they fused? How does this make any sense at all? Would it stand to reason that people would NOT value and thus abort that which they tried to prevent from joining in the first place?
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By formulating contraceptives that do not have an abortifacient effect and banning both drugs and devices that do. If contraception works, then fertilization can not happen. If fertilization happens, then contraception has not happened and any effect thereafter that causes the death of the child is abortion and not contraception.
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6. Finally, how can every potential human person have a right to life but not a right to be conceived?
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This is your second finally, but I will answer anyway. Potential persons do not exist and therefore have no rights. Potential persons are nothing more than ideas. Only after fertilization happens does a being exist and only beings that exist can have rights.