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Old 04-16-2008, 12:03 PM
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Mulp your list is a little short.

Most all countries in the world have some form of National health care including countries like Dubai and Iran.

But hey you got the countries most like us.

The really stupid part is that respected research people like the GAO and the American Medical Association have been saying for 20 years it will actually stimulate our economy and put more money in everybodies pockets if we go to national health care.


Hidden Costs, Value Lost: Uninsurance in America

Hidden Cost, Value Lost, the fifth of a series of six books on the consequences of uninsurance in the United States, illustrates some of the economic and social losses to the country of maintaining so many people without health insurance. The book explores the potential economic and societal benefits that could be realized if everyone had health insurance on a continuous basis, as people over age 65 currently do with Medicare.

Hidden Costs, Value Lost concludes that the estimated benefits across society in health years of life gained by providing the uninsured with the kind and amount of health services that the insured use, are likely greater than the additional social costs of doing so. The potential economic value to be gained in better health outcomes from uninterrupted coverage for all Americans is estimated to be between $65 and $130 billion each year.



There is tons of research out there , detailed and complete about the economic benefits to the nation of cutting the insurance companies out and providing health care reasonably to all citizens but some people are just too sill to read the truth when its right in front of their face.

The big US car makers set up shop in Canada and said they mainly did that because it is much cheaper to pay into the Canadian system than what it costs them back here in the US to insure their workers. ..................Ding dong, all businesses could benefit from the same deal the car makers are getting in canada. ........................................or they can move to 3rd world countries where they don't have to pay any health insurance at all.

I know people who are collecting social security disability at great cost to the tax payer. They work part time , just enough to stay under that threshold so they can stay on social security disability. They have to , they have no choice. They have some illness that drugs cost them big money a month for . That would now classify them as preexisting conditions and they couldn't get private insurance to cover. So they are stuck, they would like to work and not take tax payer money, but they have no choice if they want to live. ............................That is just stupid economics and this country is full of that kind of stupid economics.

I have been working on this for the last 10-15 years so I have lots of detailed research on the subject, if anybody needs it.

But , I figure its a no go, people are going to keep dying.

McCain is going to be the next US president and he is as deeply into the insurance lobbyists pockets as Bush is.

If the economy survives McCain and I have my serious doubts about that. I figure I will still be working on this during the 2012 elections and I shudder to think of all the people who will die for lack of care in the next four years. Its disgusting and immoral. And the worst choice for our economy.
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