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Old 03-14-2008, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Suburbanite View Post
bro, take it easy, you've been duped. Please, read my definition of atheist, I posted it in this thread, dont reply again until youve read it. Now... I assert that your definition of agnosticism is the same as mine of atheism and that your crude categorization of feelings towards religion is inferior to my categorization, which I feel, and hope to patiently explain to you, is a more accurate way of describing atheism that includes the most liberal to most stern "types" of atheists including agnostics.
Sorry if calling you a pussy as offensive, but I stand by my other points.

I did read your definition. And I disagree with your conclusions.

Agnosticism (from wikipedia): Agnosticism (from the Greek α-γνωστικισμός, a, meaning "without", and gnosticism or gnosis, meaning "knowledge") is the philosophical view that the truth value of certain claims — particularly metaphysical claims regarding theology, afterlife or the existence of God, gods, deities, or even ultimate reality — is unknown or, depending on the form of agnosticism, inherently unknowable due to the nature of subjective experience perceived by that individual.

The last part of the definition is why I believe agnosticism covers what atheism covers, only goes further.

Atheism (from wikipedia): Atheism, as a philosophical view, is the position that either affirms the nonexistence of gods[1] or rejects theism.[2] When defined more broadly, atheism is the absence of belief in deities,[3] alternatively called nontheism.[4] Although atheism is often equated with irreligion, some religious philosophies, such as secular theology and some varieties of Buddhism such as Theravada, either do not include belief in a personal god as a tenet of the religion, or actively teach nontheism.


As for why I got pissed? Arrogant pricks like yourself always piss me off, even if we basically agree.
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