Well Icy, I see you received a response from your friends worthy only of a child of your intellegence. If you can't answer the question, I understand. Based on the crowd you choose to associate yourself with, I'm sure you will continue to enhance your wisdom with predetermined limits. Ooops, sorry, that may be a little too deep for you. Let me try it this way, homeless curs travel in packs. I think it's love amongst you all. Joy. Isn't that thpethal?