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Originally Posted by PaleRider
The bible doesn't give proof. The bible is about faith. So the answer is no, you can't provide any proof.
My religious beliefs are irrelavent to this discussion. My objection to abortion is that human beings are being denied their most basic human right. This nation was founded on the idea that we come into being with certain inalienable rights and the right to live is among them. It is the responsiblity of government to protect those rights. Our inalienable rights are ours because we are human beings, not because we have reached some arbitrary level of maturity.
My position is based in biology, the constitution, case law, and legal precedent. The case will ultimately be decided in a court of law and religious argument not only does not have a place in a court of law, it will not be heard. If you can't argue your case effectively without calling upon religion, then you don't have a real argument.
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You can't have that both ways Pale, if you believe that fetuses have the right to life even though they are not really a "human being" yet then you have to include the religious part too, won't work any other way. The scientific data and religious beliefs go hand in hand.