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Old 03-11-2008, 05:04 PM
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Not all science says we are living human beings from the time of conception. And each person does with that science what is best for THEIR lives.
Then show me some that says that we aren't. I have been asking for you to provide some since this discussion first started. You haven't.

And once again, science doesn't make any moral demands upon you. It merely says what is. We are living human beings from the time we are concieved. That is a fact. What you do with that fact is up to you but denial of the fact isn't a rational option.

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I DO NOT ACCEPT that we are living human beings from the time we are conceived Paleone..
Then you deny credible science. It isn't that you don't want to be ruled by science, you don't even want to accept it because if you accept it as the fact that it is then you will have a moral delimma of your own making.

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I don't deny the science but it's a two way street Pale. Some scientists say what you're voicing and some say the opposite of it.


Of course you are. I have provided plenty of credible science that says that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved. I have asked you to provide some credible science that states that the offspring of two human beings is ever anything but a human being and you know and I know that you can't provide it because it doesn't exist and it doesn't exist because it simply isn't true.

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And those people do not live our lives , we do, so we must make the decisions what we do with the science.
The fact of science and what you do with those facts are two entirely different things. The fact is that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved. That fact doesn't demand that you do anything with it but accept it as a fact. It doesn't tell you how to live your life. It doesn't tie you to any moral code. It does nothing but state what is. If you believe that women should be allowed to kill thier children without legal consequence for any or no reason, then that is what you believe and I can't form an argument against that. If you deny the science though, and try and make the claim that we are something other than living human beings from conception, then I am going to demand some sort of proof because I can provide science that says that we are living human beings from conception.

Your denial of the facts creates the argument. Not how you choose to live your life.

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Are you saying the people that take those medicines that the scientists say will kill you are commiting murder? These are human beings too.
I don't know what you are talking about here.
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