lexi. When did I ever say that scientific facts should control people's lives? Never. I have said that the purpose of science is to tell us what is. Science tells us that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved. Science doesn't tell us what to do with that information, it only tells us that it is true.

You could take the science for what it is and say "OK paleone, I accept that we are living human beings from the time we are concieved but still believe that a woman should be allowed to kill the child before it is born, without legal consequence, for any or no reason at all."

That would describe your position in an intellectually honest way, and there is little argument that I could put forward. You would be accepting the reality of science and making an honest assesment of your opinion. As it stands now, you deny the science, and fabricate your position based on information that isn't true. That is where the argument comes in. Not over whether or not you believe abortion is OK, but your insistence on arguing that unborns are not living human beings in the face of overwhelming science that says they are even when you are completely unable to provide any science that says that they are something else.

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"It's not alive, It's not alive, It's not alive. Because I said it isnt', there's your proof jerk." ...lexi

"As far as your logical fallicy shit - shove it. I am a woman."...naturemomma