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Originally Posted by naturemomma
Ya know Pale, I really admire your determination. Very admiradable.
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I am nothing, if not tenatious. The thing is that you have made a claim but you have not backed it up with anything and you simply expect that it should be accepted because you said it. Sure, it is your opinion, but an opinion based on faulty information is useless. In fact it is worse than useless because you attempt to convince other people to accept it and perhaps even incorporate it into their world view. What do you gain if you convince someone else to join you in a lie?
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Originally Posted by naturemomma
I base my belief on the fact that I don't know. I have said many times, If i were faced with the choice, I'd have the baby, but I am not willing to take away someone else's right to choose.
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Tell me, would you fire a gun into a house or building from outside or set fire to the structure based on the fact that you "don't know" whether or not someone is inside? That seems like a very weak basis for any line of thought.
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Originally Posted by naturemomma
Science is tainted, atleast to me it seems that way. Everyone picks a field of work based on personal interest. So many scientists are pro-life and supporting the pro-life movement, and many are pro-choice supporting the pro-choice movement.
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There are plenty of scientists who are pro choice and it would seem that if we actually were not alive from the time we are concieved, there would be plenty of science from them trying to counter the accepted science that we are alive from the time of conception. Do you not find it odd that there is not an abundance of "science" from the pro choice side?
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Originally Posted by naturemomma
So, is it a life I don't know. But if it is,or not, you are asking women, DAUGHTERS, mothers, sisters, friends, cousins, aunts, etc. to die instead of the unborn. So, would I sacrifice my daughter to illegal abortion one day (because she made a mistake) for some fetus I don't know - fuckin don't think so. In that case I say, fuck the fetus, fuck the baby, fuck the whatever you want to call-it. I would pick my daughters life first. And I would pick any of the above first as well!
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I have never made any such request. I have always maintained that if a woman's life, or long term health is in danger, that she has the right to defend her life.
But once again, this thread isn't about whether or not abortion is or is not OK, it is about the basis upon which you hold the belief that we are not living beings from the time we are concieved.
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