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Eye_Am · #27 (**permalink**) 02-09-2008, 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by naturemomma

That's ok, Jesus, would have been labeled a liberal as well - so I am in good company.

A woman who is pregnant with that of an unwanted fetus see's only tragedy. It doesn't matter how the fetus came about, only that eveyday it becomes more of a reality and a threat.

It's so easy for people to say just have it. Are you going to buy (and these fall in no particular order), desitin, diapers, wipes, daycare, after school care, summercamp, cd's, dvd's, toys, books, sheets, blankies, pillows, food, formula, shampoo, conditioner, body soap, lotions, anti-biotics, vitamins, allergy meds, cough meds, coloring books, dolls, trucks, pants, skirts, shirts, shoes, dental visits, health insurance, a radio, television, sunny-d, milk, underwear, pull-ups, tutoring, backpacks, school clothes, school snacks, school lunches, play clothes, play sneakers, dress shoes, coats, sweaters, jackets, laundry soap, the rise of the electric bill, toothbrush, toothpaste, oragel, teething cookies, teething rings, walkers, climbers, swings, rollerblades, heelies, skateboards, surfboards, dance lessons, gynastics, soccer, uniforms for whatever sport, instruments according to whatever desire, V-Smile game and cartrides, i-pod, x-box, Wii, guitar, bedroom furniture, - I can go on, (as you can see) but I am over it. Most pro-lifers seem to forget that when a child pops out - all these things come due. And don't forget a child grows and will need new clothes twice yearly - winter and summer, and perhaps some items for fall, depending on where you live. While some items on my list are only afforded to the wealthy, most items will be needs - not wants. And if the mother can't pay - the tax payer does, and ususally the taxpayer doesn't begin to cover it.

Another question to you is this, what kind of mothers do you think these women will make if forced to give birth to a child they don't want? I think we can refer to women such as Andrea Yates, Patricia Blackmon, Debra Milke, and Susan Smith to name a few. I don't even have enought time to mention the countless others who torture, or allow their men to torture, their children.

So, other than bitching, what have you done to fix the problem?

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You try to sound intelligent in your debate and you come off as a dumbass.

1) Jesus condones death. You want people to hear your side, yet you spout incompetence. Jesus never condoned death. He condoned responsibility.

2) Quote. "A woman who is pregnant with that of an unwanted fetus see's only tragedy. It doesn't matter how the fetus came about, only that eveyday it becomes more of a reality and a threat."
ANSWER: Someone is stupid enough to get pregnant and see future as deplorable. That is a reason to kill. First of all, learn how to spell. Makes your argument more acceptable. Second of all, this statement is second rate at best. The fetus becomes a threat? You said it, not me. Why is a child a tragedy? Because it's an inconvenience. That's what you should have said. Doesn't matter how it came about? I'll fuck someone and kill the consequence. What an outstanding, profound statement.

3)All the things a child wants and needs. The list you listed is too long to quote. A parent accepts these things as life. Just like your parents. Bet you are glad your mom didn't have you sucked out, huh? How about your mom killed your ass before you were born. Would that be acceptable? Of course not. It's different, right? Now that you are born it's OK to kill the future. "And don't forget a child grows and will need new clothes twice yearly." My kids need clothes more than twice a year. You don't have a clue. Either that or I feel sorry for your kids wearing high waters and clothes too small. You want to try to scare people? Tell 'em kids need clothes and shoes every 2 months or so. And of course only rich people can afford everything a child needs? Your words. Bullshit. I'm not rich and my kids have everything they need and want. You put down every hard working parent in this country by your statements. We work our ASSES off to support our kids. You say if Mothers can't afford it, tax payers pay? That's your argument? Every woman that gets pregnant has no man that cares. Noone to help? That is the future for women in this country that become pregnant? That is a small percentage. Even with the "Too poor to know the father" argument. You make excuses for peoples actions by describing their circumstance.

4) Quote: "I think we can refer to women such as Andrea Yates, Patricia Blackmon, Debra Milke, and Susan Smith to name a few. I don't even have enought time to mention the countless others who torture, or allow their men to torture, their children."
You name a few crazy ass people and expect everyone to be the same? Yet these women wanted their kids in the beginning. These people are fucked and not good examples. With your argument we can say that all people will molest their children and life isn't worth living due to the fact that everyone wants to kill their offspring. So fuck it. Kill 'Em All.
I have enough time for you to mention every father who tortures their kids. Because that's what we men do, right? Torture our kids, beat our wives, fuck every skank that walks by.

It's clear to me that you are a feminist to the worst degree. Perhaps not lesbian, but a hater of anyone who usurps your authority. Your man, if you have one, is a rug under your feet. He, or she, does what you say. It's a pity.

Let me tell you something. My wife is a bitch, a tyrrant, hard headed, strong willed, stubborn and no nonsense when she needs to be. I never tell her what she needs to do or how to think. I, on the other hand, am a fucking asshole, tyrrant, hard headed, strong willed, stubborn and no nonsense when I need to be. We are the same. Together we make an entity that puts up with no shit. I respect that woman more than I respect anyone, besides my own mother. And, I might add, my mother is a bitch, a tyrrant, hard headed, ... God Bless a woman who isn't afraid to stand up and say fuck you. I am who I am. And God bless a woman who knows how to love her man, her children, her family. A woman is a lioness. A goddess. I bow at that throne and my throne is respected. I was a piece of shit, young punk until my wife of almost 17 years became pregnant. I changed my whole life because of them. You don't even know. Ego, pride and selfishness went out the window when I held that child in my arms. You try to shame every man that became a man by humbling himself to a greater thing than himself.