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Originally Posted by gixaholic
lets look at the premise of this post.... and lets say cookie you are right.... the following is 100% completly true....
How "Pro-Life" is all about anti-choice for women
But once again i want to go baxk to the roote of this statement.... What are these women choosing..... what is there choice....
Well... give up... ok i will tell you...
Choice #1... keep the baby.
choice #2... kill the baby " i know you libbs dont see it as killing(i was once a liberal to).... but it really is killing.... because if an abortion doesn't happen there is life..... but when it does there isn't life.......
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Well, not on your premise....see, them brainstem isnt even hooked up until after the 3rd month so you don't have a human in there..you have a pregnancy...prior to the 2nd month, you have a zygote...
so, there's a pregnancy, which is not a life...it's about a woman choosing if she will continue the pregnancy of not based upon her life and what is going on with it....including her role as mom....it's called a decision of conscience and is something shared by soldiers in battle..do I kill this child or let it live?
Clarification concerning the acquittal of a soldier who refused to serve in the Iraq war
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Who wants to study the judgment in its full wording (in German, altogether 136 pages, can find it on the Website of the Federal Administrative Court: Bundesverwaltungsgericht Leipzig | Aktuelles (more info to be found on Universität Kassel: Home)
1. A charge may only be regarded as adequate if it clearly states which breaches of duty the accused soldier is charged with. This means presenting a detailed account of events and relating it comprehensibly to the soldier's conduct and to the resulting charge. The charge must be made evident by establishing a precise connection between the description of the conduct of which the soldier is accused and the conclusions drawn from it by the army prosecutor.
2. The primary duty of every soldier in the German armed forces under the first and second sentences of Section 11(1) of the Military Act (Soldatengesetz) to execute orders 'conscientiously' (as completely and quickly as one is able) requires not unconditional obedience, but obedience which is discerning and which in particular considers the consequences of carrying out the order, in terms of the legal boundaries and the ethical limits of one's own conscience.
3. The Basic Law (Grundgesetz) and the Military Act lay down legal limits for obedience that can be divided into seven groups. A soldier does not have to carry out an order, on the ground that it is unreasonable, if he can invoke protection of the fundamental right to freedom of conscience (Article 4(1) of the Basic Law). The protection afforded by Article 4(1) of the Basic Law is not overridden by the fundamental right to recognition as a conscientious objector (Article 4(3) of the Basic Law).
4. A decision of conscience is any serious moral (i.e. relating to 'good' and 'bad') decision which an individual in a particular situation regards as a binding inner duty, making it impossible for him to act against it without serious moral distress.
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Contrary to the attempts by right winging radical religionists, women are not whores, NOR madonnas, but humans like men who are all somewhere in between the designs. The choice to have an abortion does not come easily...it is hard....except maybe in the case of rape and incest...and other times it is a hard decision made out of love...not selfishness...