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Old 02-12-2007, 12:12 PM
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I don't think you go after any place that has "bad" food. If someone wants to eat four Big Macs a day I don't care. The only time it will effect me is when I have to pay extra taxes to pay for their bypass operation, which I am against. Just like if someone wants to smoke cigarettes, it is their own personal choice. The only time it effects me is when I have to flip the bill for their lifestyle choices.

I'm confused, earlier you posted "Our health issues are not necessarily due to health care. Our diet causes much of the problem. We probably have the fattest nation of the industrialized nations (and maybe of the non-industrialized nations). European foreign exchange students come over here and almost always gain a bunch of weight due to eating the same crap that many people here eat. This was in response to another posters statistics that US health care isn't the greatest.

This statement above was in response to statistics, now you say people's diet doesn't matter. Which is it? Either diet does matter and the stats are wrong...or the stats are right and diet does not matter.


I think the problem is more with the unhealthy lifestyles of Americans (which are by choice) than it does incompetency of our health care providers - because that is what is being said. If our health care is inadequate, it is inadequate for everyone - even those who can afford good medical care. That is an indictment on the health professionals. For example, the stats on infant mortality. That is an indictment on our health care providers, not any system. People on medicare actually pay less to have children than I do (and I know this from anecdotal examples). It isn't a lack of money that is the reason for infant mortality, there are other factors. I think it has more to do with the lifestyles of some of the mothers in this country than it does doctors and nurses.
Fine, it's about lifestyles. Since those won't change overnight we need to improve health care AND lifestyle choices. One will help the other.

Dom1, in those other countries Health Care is free, that is the stats point. Austrailia, Canada, Europe, Japan (I think) - free Health care, ergo statistically they're better then us Health wise. Bring some stats about how it's about the lifestyle, then you have a prayer. But not everybody in America is obese and not every Health Care problem comes from smoking or food.

Universal Health Care would help us, just as it has helped them. That's what the stats mean.
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